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F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer
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Brand | BIC America |
Model Name | F12 |
Speaker Type | Subwoofer |
Connectivity Technology | Auxiliary |
Recommended Uses For Product | Volume Control |
About this item
- Powered subwoofer with 12-inch injection molded long throw woofer; BASH designed amp
- Patented BIC "Venturi" vent eliminates port noise
- Adjustable crossover, adjustable volume control, automatic signal sensing
- Inputs for both Dolby Pro Logic and Dolby Digital/DTS
- Backed by 5-year warranty
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Value for money | 4.7 | 4.6 | 3.7 | 4.4 | 5.0 | — |
Sound quality | 4.6 | 4.6 | 4.1 | 4.6 | 4.7 | — |
Volume control | 4.6 | 4.7 | 4.1 | — | 5.0 | — |
Accuracy | — | 4.6 | 2.6 | 4.6 | — | — |
Bass quality | — | 4.5 | 3.4 | 4.7 | — | — |
Sold By | KART IT | Adorama | KART IT | Amazon.com | Sound Distributors Inc. | Amazon.com |
speaker size | — | 12 inches | 12 inches | 12 inches | 12 inches | 12 inches |
power source | Corded Electric | Corded Electric | Corded Electric | Corded Electric | Corded Electric | Corded Electric |
connectivity tech | Auxiliary | Wired | — | RCA | — | RCA |
speaker type | Subwoofer | Subwoofer | Subwoofer | Subwoofer, Monitor, Woofer | Subwoofer | Bass reflex with down‑firing port |
mounting type | Floor Standing | Floor Standing | Tabletop, Floor Standing | Floor Standing | — | Tabletop, Floor Standing |
weight | 40.33 pounds | 78.02 pounds | 21772 grams | 39 pounds | — | 25 pounds |
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Product Description
For more than 50 years, midrange and high frequency horns have been the hands-down choice for movie theater sound engineers. From the softest whispers... To the highest impact sound... Hrn drivers have no equal when it comes to clarity and dynamic range. The BIC Formula Theater Series carries on the legacy of the first Formula Series introduced in 1973. They offer an output capability of up to 116dB (live rock band levels), while offering refinements that surpass all of its predecessors. Injection molded long throw woofer; BASH designed amp. Adjustable crossover, volume and auto on/off. Speaker level and RCA inputs. Frequency response: 25Hz-200Hz. 15" W x 17" H x 18 1/4" D. Sold individually.
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The 12-inch, front-firing F12 powered subwoofer from BIC America incorporates a high current 475-watt peak amplifier designed by BASH Technology in combination with a 12-inch injection molded long-throw woofer. A patented BIC "Venturi" vent eliminates port noise, which is often heard from other subwoofers especially when playing demanding music and videos. The F12 also features an adjustable crossover, adjustable volume control, automatic signal sensing, high level inputs, and both Dolby Pro Logic and Dolby Digital/DTS inputs.
Front of the F12 (see larger image).
Rear of the F12 (see larger image).
Specifications
- Design: Front-firing 12-inch, 475-watt peak powered subwoofer
- Frequency Response: 25Hz - 200Hz
- Sensitivity: 90dB
- Drivers: 12-inch injection molded woofer with heavy duty surround
- Magnetic Shielding: Yes
- Gold-Plated Terminals:Yes
- Recommended Power: Built-in Amplifier Power: 475 watts Dynamic Peak, 150 watts RMS continuous
- Impedance: 8 ohms
- Dimensions: 21 x 19 x 22 inches (HxWxD)
- Weight: 42.70 pounds each
- Warranty: 5 years parts and labor
From the Manufacturer
For more than 50 years, midrange and high frequency horns have been the hands-down choice for movie theater sound engineers. From the softest whispers... To the highest impact sound... Hrn drivers have no equal when it comes to clarity and dynamic range. The BIC Formula Theater Series carries on the legacy of the first Formula Series introduced in 1973. They offer an output capability of up to 116dB (live rock band levels), while offering refinements that surpass all of its predecessors. Injection molded long throw woofer; BASH designed amp. Adjustable crossover, volume and auto on/off. Speaker level and RCA inputs. Frequency response: 25Hz-200Hz. 15" W x 17" H x 18 1/4" D. Sold individually.Item is Hazmat Non-returnable
Product information
Product Dimensions | 17 x 14.8 x 17 inches |
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Item Weight | 40.3 pounds |
Manufacturer | BIC America |
ASIN | B0015A8Y5M |
Item model number | F12 |
Customer Reviews |
4.6 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #109,971 in Electronics (See Top 100 in Electronics) #132 in Home Audio Subwoofers |
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
Date First Available | May 26, 2006 |
Speakers Maximum Output Power | 475 Watts |
Item Weight | 40.33 Pounds |
Number Of Items | 1 |
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Customers like the sound quality, value, and quality of the speakers. For example, they mention that it has a very tight bass, robust cinematic bass, and is very good for the money. Some appreciate the size, power, appearance, and versatility of the product. That said, opinions are mixed on performance.
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Customers like the sound quality of the speakers. For example, they mention it has excellent sound, very tight bass, and full range. Some say the Dark Knight sounded fabulous, and the bass is robust and cinematic. The subwoofer is loud when needed, and has a warm sound. The musicality has improved substantially, and it does a great job with music.
"...n't be surprised if it had some more "loosening up" to go, but it sounds very nice, and doesn't need to be cranked way up to hear and feel it...." Read more
"...Sounded absolutely powerful and fantastic. Best money I think I've ever spent in my whole life...." Read more
"...🎼 SOUNDIt has a good clean bass at low levels, even at the bottom end I don't hear any vibration noises, and there is no port noise...." Read more
"...had enough positive reviews and I found several discussing it's warm bass and good crossover with the ability to shake your house and neighbors'..." Read more
Customers appreciate the value of the speakers. They say it's a high quality product for the price. Customers also mention that it sounds great and is an affordable package.
"...the two most popular subwoofers on this site because of their price point and value. I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong forum...." Read more
"...Buy this sub with confidence that it is very good for the money, however you might want to only buy directly from Amazon as they are the 800 pound..." Read more
"...Sounded absolutely powerful and fantastic. Best money I think I've ever spent in my whole life...." Read more
"...my purchase -- I honestly didn't expect F12 to be of such high quality for the price...." Read more
Customers like the quality of the speakers. They say it's a quality product, built a little better, and has strong sound. Customers are also impressed with the design and construction of the subwoofer, saying it'll provide excellent reliability and performance. Overall, customers are happy with their purchase and recommend it to others.
"...Sounded absolutely powerful and fantastic. Best money I think I've ever spent in my whole life...." Read more
"...F12 because of many positive reviews I had come across, because it was cheap, but mostly because I just couldn't stand the sound of my Polk PSW108..." Read more
"...Again, I'm very impressed with the design and construction of this sub. When I opened the box, I was surprised by how large the enclosure was...." Read more
"...For movies, this sub is absolutely wonderful. It is nice and punchy, and hits all the lows loud and clear with no distortion...." Read more
Customers like the size of the speakers. For example, they say it's big and powerful, with better heat sinks. They also mention that the sub is huge and heavy, and it'll fit in an average living room. That said, they're happy with the size and say it fits their needs well.
"...n't, though it might be the best one in this price range, and it fits my needs well and wasn't nearly as expensive as many other subs...." Read more
"This is a great sounding sub, substantial in size and has great bass clarity at low volumes (which was what I wanted)...." Read more
"...This thing is powerful and fills up a medium-sized living room...." Read more
"...The Polk isn't much smaller, and I realize that if I keep both I will need to relocate one of them somewhere else in the room." Read more
Customers like the power of the speakers. They say it has incredible power, plenty of power, and great sound. Customers also say that the sub kicks with clear low-end power, has 150+ watt sustain, and can greatly overpower the capability of the rest of their system. They are primarily value driven and appreciate the power that you can feel.
"...More than enough power for most setups as well -- more than I can use...." Read more
"...This is an extremely powerful sub, when turned up a good amount this thing will shake the couch, rattle walls, and even rattle walls across the house..." Read more
"...sent it what I felt was a very loud run-through and it handled everything beautifully, maintaining precise notes all the way...." Read more
"...I decided to pull the trigger on one and am glad I did. This thing is powerful and fills up a medium-sized living room...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the appearance of the speakers. They mention that it looks good, has a sturdy build, and is pleasant to the eyes. They also appreciate the clean squared off grill and the finish on the outside is nice and clean. Overall, customers are happy with the speakers' appearance.
"...The F12 is aesthetically pleasing with its black cabinet and the gloss silver cone...." Read more
"...For movies, this sub is absolutely wonderful. It is nice and punchy, and hits all the lows loud and clear with no distortion...." Read more
"...into more specifics, in terms of size (one of my concerns) this sub is pretty nice...." Read more
"...It plays well with all types of music, smooth jazz, classical, and especially Hip-Hop & R&B. For my Blu-Ray experience, I played the movie..." Read more
Customers like the versatility of the speakers. They say it's really nice for movies, but a bit monotonous for music. They also say it gets pretty deep and very loud, making it great for watching movies and experiencing the LF sounds. Customers also say that it excels in theater applications, providing the ultimate theater experience in your home. They mention that it truly shakes their house and makes watching movies very enjoyable.
"...It didn't sound bad, but it didn't sound great either. Home theater was pretty good. It gets pretty deep, and like I said, very loud...." Read more
"...positive reviews and I found several discussing it's warm bass and good crossover with the ability to shake your house and neighbors' while also..." Read more
"...It was a pretty good setup for OOB (out of box), but when Cyber Monday rolled around in 2014 I saw HK was offering the HKTS8..." Read more
"...5-6 easily accomplishes that. As far as movies, this sub excels in theatre applications. Lord of War and Inception are entirely new experiences...." Read more
Customers have mixed opinions about the performance of the speakers. Some mention that it performs well on the low end spectrum (20-30Hz) and has excellent reliability. However, others say that it is not as powerful, does not perform well with small speakers, and has significant response dips between 80-85 Hz and 58-63 Hz.
"...Regardless, I believe this is a VERY good result for a $200 sub. It gets even better, if your receiver has parametric EQ for the sub channel...." Read more
"...this one is a good "middle of the road" sub that performs well with both music and movies...." Read more
"...When I opened up the box is when I realized that something wasn't quite perfect...." Read more
"...Both subs perform very well on the low end spectrum (20-30Hz) and have plenty of volume...." Read more
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Hopefully this helps someone out, because these seem to be the two most popular subwoofers on this site because of their price point and value. I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong forum.
My new home theater is a SD/NewEgg special containing only Polks. I have two Polk Monitor 70s ($137 each open box), two Polk Monitor 60s for rears ($100 each new), and a Polk CS2 center ($92 open box). I checked the Newegg open box section every 2 hours for like 2 months to get this stuff. I just recenty got a used Denon AVR-590 used off ebay.
I spent a week reading every thread on the internet I could find between the Bic F12, Polk PSW505, and the Energy S10.3 . I came to the conclusion that since I had a larger room, I would shy away from the 10" Energy sub even though it appears to have the best sound quality of the 3, while still having pretty good output. I didn't think a $200 10" subwoofer would fill a 26x20 room. I also was weary about the build quality considering the annoying front light dies for everyone within a few weeks.
Anyways, on AVS forum and most of the internet, most people picked the BIC F12. However, there is a large following for the PSW505 on Polks forum (go figure), and on SD. The kicker is Amazon accepted a trade in on some old calculators and gave me $20, so I ended up choosing the BIC.
I ordered it on a Tuesday morning, it shipped on Wednesday, and I received it on Thursday, lightning fast. Here are my thoughts, and I am not an audiophile. I had some cheap KLH speakers I spent bottom dollar on and loved them for 10 years.
First thoughts were that this thing is really, really loud. It is also really, really big. You're suppose to leave a foot of space for the backfiring port. This was an issue for me. Sitting flush against the wall was the only way it could line up with the rest of my stereo. I had to move it to the side pretty far so I wouldn't have to hop over it every time I walk by.
I wasn't impressed impressed with it musically. It didn't sound bad, but it didn't sound great either. Home theater was pretty good. It gets pretty deep, and like I said, very loud. Maybe I got used to it, but it didn't seem as loud the following days. I was coming from an older JBL 12" that I realize now was very weak compared to the BIC.
The day after I bought my BIC, I was browsing NewEgg open box, and a PSW505 showed up for $124! I couldn't help myself because I knew it wouldn't last, so I bought it. I just hooked it up today, so I can finally do a direct comparison.
I switched the audio cable back and forth between them while playing loud rap music. They both sounded the exact same for the first 30 minutes or so. I had the gain set on both at 12 oclock. After 30 minutes, I realized that the PSW505 had more kick/boom to it bass wise. You could hear it rumble noticeably more than the BIC. I did however notice a little bit of port chuffing on the Polk, but you can only hear it if your ear is right next to the port. I doubt anyone would ever do that. The BIC doesn't chuff much because of their special port.
So I think wow, this is great, the Polk has more output and was cheaper! This was confirmed with Home Theater. The Polk had noticeably more boom when I watched Transformers. My Denon is calibrated for the BIC by itself, but you could hear much more bass in the fight scenes. An explosion that you could barely hear from the BIC made a BOOM from the Polk.
So I sit back think about getting dual PSW505s (2 open boxes @ $124 each) and returning my BIC (1 for $200). While I was watching the movie for like an hour though with only the Polk on, I realized that despite the extra ooomph the Polk was giving, I wasn't really enjoying the movie. I went back to the BIC F12 and really listened. Again, although the F12 was not as loud as the Polk at the same gain, I realize the BIC sounded much clearer than the Polk. It had crisper sounds.
Conclusion:
I think people would be happy with either subwoofer. They sound pretty much the same with rap music. If you switch back and forth repeatedly, you'll hear a difference though. The Polk is rated higher in wattage, so that's probably why it's louder at the same gain and probably louder in general. For me, I've decided to keep the F12. Due to the cheap price, I'm also considering keeping the PSW505 as well. I'm a bass head and while a single sub is probably enough for most, I might want to help fill out the large room more.
I'm attaching some side by side photos of the F12 and the PSW505. Notice that the PSW505 has broken pegs on it. Yes, the grill came broken, but Polk will send you replacements rather easily, which is a big deal for me.
The F12 is aesthetically pleasing with its black cabinet and the gloss silver cone. The Polk looks kind of ugly with the silver face next to the series II monitor series that is all black cabinets and faces, but behind a grill you'd never be able to tell.
Bottom Line: With them both costing the same price, I would recommend the F12 over the PSW505. I think the boominess and extra output of the Polk would get tiring after a while and you would want something a little clearer, even at the sacrifice of a little output. If you will be listening to 100% rap music, you may actually like the Polk more cuz I kinda did.
I hope that this Joe Schmoe review helps many Slickdealers with their future home theater and subwoofer purchases
The F12 is $197 on Amazon right now, $3 less than what I bought it for last week.It has been about $200 for the past 5 months or so. Likely not moving any time soon.
The PSW505 is regularly on sale for $199 shipped on Newegg.
P.S. I actually caught a second PSW505 tonight and purchased it. I canceled it like an hour ago, so it will probably be back tomorrow morning for those that want one. For $123 shipped it's a freakin steal you shouldn't pass on. I just don't need a third one and this stuff doesn't go for much locally on CL surprisingly. I added a poll for fun and a couple of extra pictures. The F12 is really wide. That is my monitor 70 and the sub is leaned up against the wall, the M70 isn't. The Polk isn't much smaller, and I realize that if I keep both I will need to relocate one of them somewhere else in the room.
Reviewed in the United States on November 30, 2020
Hopefully this helps someone out, because these seem to be the two most popular subwoofers on this site because of their price point and value. I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong forum.
My new home theater is a SD/NewEgg special containing only Polks. I have two Polk Monitor 70s ($137 each open box), two Polk Monitor 60s for rears ($100 each new), and a Polk CS2 center ($92 open box). I checked the Newegg open box section every 2 hours for like 2 months to get this stuff. I just recenty got a used Denon AVR-590 used off ebay.
I spent a week reading every thread on the internet I could find between the Bic F12, Polk PSW505, and the Energy S10.3 . I came to the conclusion that since I had a larger room, I would shy away from the 10" Energy sub even though it appears to have the best sound quality of the 3, while still having pretty good output. I didn't think a $200 10" subwoofer would fill a 26x20 room. I also was weary about the build quality considering the annoying front light dies for everyone within a few weeks.
Anyways, on AVS forum and most of the internet, most people picked the BIC F12. However, there is a large following for the PSW505 on Polks forum (go figure), and on SD. The kicker is Amazon accepted a trade in on some old calculators and gave me $20, so I ended up choosing the BIC.
I ordered it on a Tuesday morning, it shipped on Wednesday, and I received it on Thursday, lightning fast. Here are my thoughts, and I am not an audiophile. I had some cheap KLH speakers I spent bottom dollar on and loved them for 10 years.
First thoughts were that this thing is really, really loud. It is also really, really big. You're suppose to leave a foot of space for the backfiring port. This was an issue for me. Sitting flush against the wall was the only way it could line up with the rest of my stereo. I had to move it to the side pretty far so I wouldn't have to hop over it every time I walk by.
I wasn't impressed impressed with it musically. It didn't sound bad, but it didn't sound great either. Home theater was pretty good. It gets pretty deep, and like I said, very loud. Maybe I got used to it, but it didn't seem as loud the following days. I was coming from an older JBL 12" that I realize now was very weak compared to the BIC.
The day after I bought my BIC, I was browsing NewEgg open box, and a PSW505 showed up for $124! I couldn't help myself because I knew it wouldn't last, so I bought it. I just hooked it up today, so I can finally do a direct comparison.
I switched the audio cable back and forth between them while playing loud rap music. They both sounded the exact same for the first 30 minutes or so. I had the gain set on both at 12 oclock. After 30 minutes, I realized that the PSW505 had more kick/boom to it bass wise. You could hear it rumble noticeably more than the BIC. I did however notice a little bit of port chuffing on the Polk, but you can only hear it if your ear is right next to the port. I doubt anyone would ever do that. The BIC doesn't chuff much because of their special port.
So I think wow, this is great, the Polk has more output and was cheaper! This was confirmed with Home Theater. The Polk had noticeably more boom when I watched Transformers. My Denon is calibrated for the BIC by itself, but you could hear much more bass in the fight scenes. An explosion that you could barely hear from the BIC made a BOOM from the Polk.
So I sit back think about getting dual PSW505s (2 open boxes @ $124 each) and returning my BIC (1 for $200). While I was watching the movie for like an hour though with only the Polk on, I realized that despite the extra ooomph the Polk was giving, I wasn't really enjoying the movie. I went back to the BIC F12 and really listened. Again, although the F12 was not as loud as the Polk at the same gain, I realize the BIC sounded much clearer than the Polk. It had crisper sounds.
Conclusion:
I think people would be happy with either subwoofer. They sound pretty much the same with rap music. If you switch back and forth repeatedly, you'll hear a difference though. The Polk is rated higher in wattage, so that's probably why it's louder at the same gain and probably louder in general. For me, I've decided to keep the F12. Due to the cheap price, I'm also considering keeping the PSW505 as well. I'm a bass head and while a single sub is probably enough for most, I might want to help fill out the large room more.
I'm attaching some side by side photos of the F12 and the PSW505. Notice that the PSW505 has broken pegs on it. Yes, the grill came broken, but Polk will send you replacements rather easily, which is a big deal for me.
The F12 is aesthetically pleasing with its black cabinet and the gloss silver cone. The Polk looks kind of ugly with the silver face next to the series II monitor series that is all black cabinets and faces, but behind a grill you'd never be able to tell.
Bottom Line: With them both costing the same price, I would recommend the F12 over the PSW505. I think the boominess and extra output of the Polk would get tiring after a while and you would want something a little clearer, even at the sacrifice of a little output. If you will be listening to 100% rap music, you may actually like the Polk more cuz I kinda did.
I hope that this Joe Schmoe review helps many Slickdealers with their future home theater and subwoofer purchases
The F12 is $197 on Amazon right now, $3 less than what I bought it for last week.It has been about $200 for the past 5 months or so. Likely not moving any time soon.
The PSW505 is regularly on sale for $199 shipped on Newegg.
P.S. I actually caught a second PSW505 tonight and purchased it. I canceled it like an hour ago, so it will probably be back tomorrow morning for those that want one. For $123 shipped it's a freakin steal you shouldn't pass on. I just don't need a third one and this stuff doesn't go for much locally on CL surprisingly. I added a poll for fun and a couple of extra pictures. The F12 is really wide. That is my monitor 70 and the sub is leaned up against the wall, the M70 isn't. The Polk isn't much smaller, and I realize that if I keep both I will need to relocate one of them somewhere else in the room.
I am no "Bass Head" but do like to hear and feel it and the F12 does a good job of producing clean bass. I have the crossover set at 80 and have tweaked all the speakers using my receiver's equalizer. Wouldn't say this is the best sub because it isn't, though it might be the best one in this price range, and it fits my needs well and wasn't nearly as expensive as many other subs. It represents a very good compromise of quality, performance, and price. For me it came down to either the F12 or the Polk PSW505 in this price-performance range.
The rating for this sub is a solid 5 stars. My rating for the Marketplace Reseller Contractors A/V initially was a Negative 5 if that rating existed. They sent out the sub quickly and I got it within 4 days which was fine. FedEx delivered it without the usual fork truck holes that UPS provides for free so everything started out great. When I opened up the box is when I realized that something wasn't quite perfect. The bag that the owner's manual and registration card came in was all crumpled like it had been handled numerous times and it wasn't sealed. In fact there were a couple pieces of Styrofoam stuck onto the folded over tape. The owner's manual was very crumpled and the postcard registration card is so crumpled that it can't be mailed.
When I checked out the sub it didn't appear to have any evidence of abuse, scratches or anything, however both of the speaker connections on the input side were loose like it had been hooked up before and then not tightened up all the way like the other connections that were still factory tight. I hooked it up to see if it was OK, and at first thought it was DOA as all I could feel was a little vibration at the cone's edge. It turned out that it took a couple of hours for the speaker to loosen up enough to start working correctly. The one saving grace is that I got plenty of that "new electronics" odor which told me that this hadn't been turned on for very long as that "new smell" never lasts too long. What I suspect is that this unit was an Open Box return as the previous owner probably concluded that it was broken when it didn't produce much sound right out of the box and they promptly returned it.
Since the sub appears to be working normally now, I am on the fence about just sending it back as I have some doubts about if it is "reconditioned" and how long it may continue to work. The unit was advertised as "NEW" yet it was not. Had it been advertised as "Open Box" or "Re-Certified" and I bought it knowing that then I wouldn't have any complaint. This is the second Amazon Marketplace reseller that I have had problems with and will not buy again from one of their Marketplace resellers. I have never had any problems with anything ordered from Amazon itself that was listed as New, In Stock, and Sold by Amazon, but I cannot make that same statement for their re-sellers.
Update 3/16:
Contacted the Marketplace reseller after giving them a low satisfaction rating based on not getting a brand new unit and they were very responsive and wanted to make it right and had an RMA issued. In the end I decided to keep the unit I have as it is working fine and also because the Marketplace reseller is ordering on behalf of their customers through a third party wholesale warehouse. It was uncertain how long it might take to get another unit as they were out-of-stock and it might end up being another "re-pack" and I'd be in the middle of everything all over again. Lesson learned is that ordering on-line can be great as long as there never are any issues, and even though the re-seller was willing to jump through hoops there were still things not within either of our control that could have turned this into a nightmare. Kudos to Contractor's A/V for trying to make things right as they had no way to know that their wholesaler would send out a re-pack and represent it as new. I will think twice before ordering anything large or expensive on-line rather than going through a local retailer where the remedy for any problems is far more clear and straightforward.
Buy this sub with confidence that it is very good for the money, however you might want to only buy directly from Amazon as they are the 800 pound gorilla and they have the clout with their suppliers to fix things immediately if not sooner.